Tristin G. Oh that’s good info on your ball type. yeah I have over 150 games on my effect tour and granted I keep it at 500, I think box is 1500, in my opinion that ball would be way to strong for short pattern for me. Maybe if the surface was up to 3000 with compound but I probably wouldn’t do that to the ball I would use something else.

I typically go to Asymmetrical balls when I need hook, not less hook. On short patterns the lane supplies the hook so I think more weak balls, weak covers bring them up to 1500, 2000 or 3000, or of course pearls, maybe a hybrid, potentially urethane. If you still have too much hook, plastic could even be in play or you may have a pin down layout for short patterns.

Hello,

I have the same issue but only when I try to play the inside part of the lane. I am currently bowling on Sport Shot with a long pattern Badger 48. As I try to play the inside part of the lane to take speed off I seem to have a case of the pulls.

I have no problem playing hard outside or the track area, I Average over 206 in two sanctioned leagues I participate in. But I like throwing the fast ball as I call it, when it comes time to slow hook it from deep inside I sometimes feel lost.

The only thing I can think of is that I move up on the approach and try to take as much speed off as possible while still giving the ball my standard amount of hand and it very regularly starts left of my intended target. I know it’s something I need to practice but you are not alone.

Build your go to comfortable stock shot (speed/hand) on whatever the most common conditions you face are. In general I would say slow balls hook more and fast balls less. A guy I bowl with in league is always chasing his tail trying to ball change but it’s not the ball necessarily it’s his ball speed. He is 2-3 or more mph different from shot to shot. I’m within 1 to 1.5 mph from shot to shot. Pair that consistent speed with hitting the same target and your will score better quickly.

So I just came off of two weeks of bowling 36’ Viper. Obviously you have to start out somewhere between board 1 and 5. I was able to throw three games with the combination of my Hammer Raw (1500 abralon) and my Hammer Ocean Vibe (Pearl). Both are symmetrical weak balls. I would say that is a good place to start. Core and Cover are going to have the most effect on ball motion.

I have just two releases hook and up the back. Without moving and playing straight up the arrows for as long as I could with the hook release was my goal. I was pounding board 4 and board 5, playing straighter is great and letting the lane hook the ball even with my hook release.

I have no problems adding speed if necessary, our AMF registers down lane and my numbers are mid 17 mph when I want brisk control down to 16 mph.

I did tinker with some of the up the back releases and hit flush but it seemed like the pin action wasn’t quite as good for me and it had a tendency to leave 7’s and 10’s. It was my first time trying that type of release out.

Balling down to the weak pearl helped me stay longer on my preferred line finish the 3 game series.

There is a time where you might have to play board 6 to 4 (Kyle mentioned it during Orlando training camp) it’s hard to mentally put yourself in a place where you are standing so far right for me on 15 as a right hander and you need to send the ball slightly to the right. Kyle did say if you don’t gutter you aren’t trying.

Hope that helps a bit.

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Hey Rob, I was at the event as well and I just signed up today. I believe the email address was bradandkyle300@gmail.com for support with the coupon code and other account support. The code CLINIC did work so hopefully they can get it fixed for you. All the best,

Rick